Nineteen songs on one album???

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Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby ConfusionGrows » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:58 pm

It used to be fairly standard for a dance or electronic album to fill up a CD to maximum - 74 minute runtimes were far from rare and sometimes you'd get them squeezing up to 80 minutes. Often these albums usually had long songs on them, 5mins+ for the majority of the tracks and some really long ones, so usually you'd only get somewhere between 8 and 11 tracks. I feel that this is about the number an album should peak at. I like long songs and short ones but regardless of length, I think this is about the right number for: 1) an artist to write in one go to get a decent consistency 2) the listener to get a good progression over the course of an album 3) the listener not to run out of steam and get bored.

I'm listening to Paul van Dyk's newest album now - it's sort of middling quality - but it has nineteen songs on it! This is even worse than Nero's album from last year. Even though most of the tracks are "radio length" - not necessarily good for a trance and house album - this still leaves my attention diluted over too many tracks. I've noticed this happening more and more often now that digital releases allow virtually no limit on album running time, and I just don't have the patience for this. Obviously double/triple albums always existed but at least that format implicitly allowed you to conceptually separate each side/disc/tape and give the listener a chance to take a break. I might be unusual on this forum in that I enjoy albums a lot, I don't know, but for me I take album quality as the main factor in deciding how much I like artists, not singles, and I like albums which go somewhere and have a consistent feel to them. So many of my most enjoyable listening experiences have come from a consistent and well-made album, usually more than hearing just a good single. These long ones are starting to sound like collections of songs, not works as a whole, and you have to do better than that to keep my attention for nearly two hours.

Shit I just wrote a blog post....
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby runemopar » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:16 pm

I just don't think of albums as albums really, just the individual tracks and pick them out and plop them in playlists because I hate skipping the tracks I don't like as much...
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby ConfusionGrows » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:46 pm

On a good album you shouldn't need to do either of those things.
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby runemopar » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:20 pm

True, but there's few albums that I find that are a great experience whole way through, and consistent. I don't really care because albums aren't really that important to me... But [Human] by Hol Baumann and Random Album Title by Deadmau5 are the only ones I can think of that are like that.
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby MrNiceguy » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:48 pm

hardcore punk should have alot of songs on an album like Good riddance with Operation phoenix 17 songs plus one hidden


still its only 40 mins and theres a couple of min pause between the last track and the hidden track
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby JannikR » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:47 pm

runemopar wrote:True, but there's few albums that I find that are a great experience whole way through, and consistent.


Right? I'm with you there. The only one I can think of is Demon Days by Gorillaz.
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby Rmonik » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:23 am

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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby runemopar » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:17 am

lol project 56 is nothing BUT consistent, but each bit is short enough and ordered in such a way that nothing feels too out of place.

And Demon Days, how could I forget :) ... I used to say there would never be made a better album
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby JannikR » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:29 am

runemopar wrote: I used to say there would never be made a better album


I still believe that.
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Re: Nineteen songs on one album???

Postby runemopar » Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:10 am

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