The new Share Your Music system!

[Nequissimus]

My only problem with the new system is that for me 25 is too big a number, I just think it creates a bit of a monopoly for those who are always on the site :/

So you say it's a bad thing that those who are always here, provide help to others and help the community are offered a better chance to get help theirselfs than those who just get in to promote their song and never listened to a song by another artist on here?

[steed of the man]

My only problem with the new system is that for me 25 is too big a number, I just think it creates a bit of a monopoly for those who are always on the site :/

So you say it's a bad thing that those who are always here, provide help to others and help the community are offered a better chance to get help theirselfs than those who just get in to promote their song and never listened to a song by another artist on here?

I'm saying it's bad thing that people who can't come on here very regularly but when they do try to offer the best feedback they can will be kept out of the top 25 by people going "Nice tune bro, like the drums". Those here to promote their own tracks will still do so but they'll just play the system now.

Perhaps if your comments had to be helpful to count, although I have to be honest apart from a word count (which doesn't mean it's good it means it's long) I don't know how you'd enforce it :/

[unknownastronuat]

so i thought i understood how this system works, but now im confused. isnt your most recent song supposed to be stickied? i posted a song last week and it has been on the top 25 list (got lots of great feedback!) but i posted new a song yesterday, almost 21 hours ago... i thought my new song would replace my old song on the top 25 list, but this didnt happen... im confused, lol

[armahillo]

My only problem with the new system is that for me 25 is too big a number, I just think it creates a bit of a monopoly for those who are always on the site :/

So you say it's a bad thing that those who are always here, provide help to others and help the community are offered a better chance to get help theirselfs than those who just get in to promote their song and never listened to a song by another artist on here?

I'm saying it's bad thing that people who can't come on here very regularly but when they do try to offer the best feedback they can will be kept out of the top 25 by people going "Nice tune bro, like the drums". Those here to promote their own tracks will still do so but they'll just play the system now.

Steed -- I understand what you're saying.

Dave and I have been talking about some ways to help those that wish to do some straight song promotion. The Share Your Music board (and please correct me if I'm wrong here -- I'm not a complete n00b but I don't use the forum as much as many of you do) is intended to be more of an incubator for artists who have songs in development, rather than a showcase for final works. (Again, if I am mistaken on that, I apologize)

Would you, or anyone else, be interested in a "BIAB Top Charts" system where you can submit a finished song and others can vote on them? (some sort of approval-voting system, like the FB "like" system, rather than an up/down Reddit mod system)

Perhaps if your comments had to be helpful to count, although I have to be honest apart from a word count (which doesn't mean it's good it means it's long) I don't know how you'd enforce it :/

Funny you should mention that. This was something that Dave and I discussed while developing this concept -- we had considered the possibility of mods hand picking whether a comment was helpful or not, but that puts a pretty substantial burden on the mods. Another possibility was to do a Reddit/StackOverflow-style up/down voting system (like the "Did you find this comment helpful?" on Amazon.com) though that is a little more involved (not to say we can't/wouldn't do it, though!)

[armahillo]

so i thought i understood how this system works, but now im confused. isnt your most recent song supposed to be stickied? i posted a song last week and it has been on the top 25 list (got lots of great feedback!) but i posted new a song yesterday, almost 21 hours ago... i thought my new song would replace my old song on the top 25 list, but this didnt happen... im confused, lol

Thanks for letting me know. I will look at the topics you've posted and compare it to the behavior of the system and post back here.

[armahillo]

Share your music timelapse, 4/23/2012

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Hey all -- in case any of you are interested, I've been charting the output from the script when it re-calculates the rankings (now doing it every 3 hours). Currently, it's still using all comments from all time. I wanted to get a little more data before tweaking that, so I have a baseline to compare to.

Each column is a different execution, ranked 1 (top) to 25 (bottom), in descending order of ranking. They are not completely even intervals (the first two are a day apart, the next few are about 12 hrs apart, and the last 6 are in a 36 hr timeperiod). The color coding is:

• Bright Yellow: Song is new to the top 25
• Bright Orange: Song has appeared in the recorded history but just re-appeared
• Black: Song drops off the top 25 after this execution
• Light Green: Song has risen in ranking
• Light Red: Song has fallen in ranking
• Dark Green: Song has risen in ranking, but drops off after this execution
• Dark Red: Song has fallen in ranking, and drops off after this execution
• Brown: Song was new to the top 25, but drops off after this execution

Things of note:

Lots of yellow and black, which means that there is a fair amount of rotation in content. I can't say that the yellow songs were introduced by new-to-the-site users (I honestly don't know -- it would take a lot of time to analyze all those songs individually), but it's good to at least see new content appear there. The songs dropping off are from as high up as #6 and are actually weighted most heavily around the center.

The rankings in the first-25 range from ~1.5 to ~10, with the majority being towards the lower end of the spectrum (which means getting into the first-25 is perfectly accessible if you post regularly on other people's threads).

Next week (probably starting this weekend), I will adjust the script to only use posts made within the last 30 days and see how that affects the distribution of rankings.

[42TheFloorBeats]

hey off topic but it keeps on putting the wrong track on the top 25 for me im not complaining just saying tho

[armahillo]

42TheFloorBeats:

Can you tell me which track is showing and which *should* be showing? Thanks!

[Rmonik]

i think we will see much more yellow and black once the script is changed to only affect the last 30 days.

[Nequissimus]

Would you, or anyone else, be interested in a "BIAB Top Charts" system where you can submit a finished song and others can vote on them? (some sort of approval-voting system, like the FB "like" system, rather than an up/down Reddit mod system)

That would, indeed, be interesting, i think.

Showcase-Forum. Reviews are possible, but are not mandatory to rate the song. Like the classic yt-style would be nice. 5 Stars and done. but not anonymous. To force an honest opinion there should be a listing of the usernames with their votes So hating/fanboying would be a little less

And you know what would great: The possibility to order the list by rating or submission date.