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Madeon, such quality!

Postby Wickot » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:06 pm

Hello everyone!

Does anyone have any clue how to make stuff like Madeon? Honestly! I've been trying for like, two weeks. The best I can do is a very bad song. >_< I've been producing now for 11 months, and I understand that it takes years to perfect a sound! But holy crap this is a good sound.

I can't get enough of the funk bass flicks and guitar strums he puts into his songs, I've been looking all over for an easier way of doing this in Ableton live other than exporting synths and loops and then loading them into a drum rack and fucking shit up there.

Everything I try to make ends up sounding muddy and out of context, even though everything is exported in tune mostly on D's and E's either minor or major. It all makes sense, just can't get that sound. <_>

For an example of these bass flicks, have a listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuC2MUmQaG4
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby Kreepr » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:39 pm

I love his bass thingies and I'm an overall Madeon fan. I've been listening to him since he won that "FL Studio Contest" and I've been hooked ever since! I love some oldschool filter/french house and Madeon is everything I need atm. I'll tell you to listen to a lot of oldschool gospel funk and learn how they do their bass. It's the same technique. Like The Whispers or Carl Carlton's Bad Mamma Jamma
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby Rmonik » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:04 pm

If you want those little guitar strums and glitches to fit in the mix, you have to limit the crap out of them.
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby Wickot » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:38 pm

Surely well recorded samples, wouldn't need limited too much.

Since posting this, I have in fact come up with a fantastic way to assemble the complex melodies, it's now just a matter of inserting samples in key. :3 Joy.
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby DAST » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:45 pm

yeah Madeon is great! :)
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby Rmonik » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:54 pm

Wickot wrote:Surely well recorded samples, wouldn't need limited too much.

Since posting this, I have in fact come up with a fantastic way to assemble the complex melodies, it's now just a matter of inserting samples in key. :3 Joy.

Plucke have high volumes but low perceived volumes. The only way of fitting that it with bass sounds that are much louder in RMS is by limiting it so the perceived volume is higher.

Trust me, madeon limits it. A lot.
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby AnalogAesthetics » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:29 am

This is hardly constructive, but <3 Madeon <3

On another note, you can also try sidechaining the lower-frequency components of looping samples (having first split the samples into three frequency bands using three sends) with a high ratio and a soft-ish knee (3-5 dB?) to trigger compression with the one shot plucks and glitches. This is not radically different from limiting and boosting the overall output gain afterwards but it might allow more precision, although it also might take more time. Just an idea :D

EDIT: Actually, scratch that. I tried doing it myself and it's actually easier to do it with chains rather than sends, in terms of mixing. Cue the samples you want to compress/limit in 3 parallel instances of Simpler/Sampler, then throw an EQ 3 on each channel, set to cut/boost only low, mid, or high on each chain to split out the bands, then configure sidechain compression in each chain/frequency band from there.
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby GazQwerty » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:11 pm

Seeing him at Creamfields next week cannot wait!
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby Wickot » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:56 pm

GazQwerty wrote:Seeing him at Creamfields next week cannot wait!


He is fantastic live! He mixes really fast, and manages to keep the crowd jumping throughout! Seen him at RockNess a month or so back now. :)
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Re: Madeon, such quality!

Postby runemopar » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:09 pm

I wish I could see him live, I love his music and his taste!
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