How to generate nauseating sub bass??

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How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby gombul » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:47 pm

Hi,

For an intro, I am trying to generate an atmosphere of being underneath an arctic glacier that is moving.

The film "Titanic" had a lot of fans, but 99% of these were the soppy variety. I loved the film for the sounds the ship made as it buckled under enormous pressure. I want to translate this to my glacier and generate a sub bass to accompany the grunts and groans as it crunches it's millions of tonnes across the tectonic plate.

Any ideas? I'm talking about a bass that causes vibrations in your neighbours' tea cup. Oh, and I'm using Reason 4. I guess I could look at cinema to see how they do it.
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby alexc » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:32 am

First think notes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_key_frequencies. So looking at this you probably want them somewhere between B0 and G2.

Once this is done a sine wave, or two an octave apart and your done. Sine waves have no harmonics so a low-pass filter just becomes a volume control. Make sure your notes are right so the frequency of your sub is not clashing with your kick drum and there you go.

Square and Triangle waves are also used for subs and each give you a different sound. These both have harmonics to worry about so you'll need to be low-passing them keeping in mind what frequency your kick drum is peaking at, make sure those frequencies aren't overlapping.

Play about with the notes, waveforms, and try with just one octave or a two octave spread. Find which is right for your track, it's all about experimenting.

Hope this helps :D .
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby ReSet » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:57 pm

Wave 10 on the subtractor is also great for sub-bass tones :)
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby Ekol » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:34 pm

What I always do is get a square wave, a sine and a really stange harmonic wave. I distort them, octave them, the low pass the whole sound at about 100/120Hz.
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby alexc » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:24 pm

Protocell wrote:What I always do is get a square wave, a sine and a really stange harmonic wave. I distort them, octave them, the low pass the whole sound at about 100/120Hz.

I never feel the need to do all this. Does it really add that much?
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby ReSet » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:13 am

Such is the art of producing. It's the little things that no-one really notices that can make a track sound unique, even if you don't know why :)
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby Ekol » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:37 am

alexc wrote:
Protocell wrote:What I always do is get a square wave, a sine and a really stange harmonic wave. I distort them, octave them, the low pass the whole sound at about 100/120Hz.

I never feel the need to do all this. Does it really add that much?


Well, I always do the sine and the square, and yeah. The sine wave is only one frequency, where as a square wave is a lot more harmonic (full) sounding. by mixing these together, and distorting, you get a really thick sub. Imo!
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby alexc » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:39 am

Protocell wrote:
alexc wrote:
Protocell wrote:What I always do is get a square wave, a sine and a really stange harmonic wave. I distort them, octave them, the low pass the whole sound at about 100/120Hz.

I never feel the need to do all this. Does it really add that much?


Well, I always do the sine and the square, and yeah. The sine wave is only one frequency, where as a square wave is a lot more harmonic (full) sounding. by mixing these together, and distorting, you get a really thick sub. Imo!

Yeh alright quite a few times I have used both a sine and a square just cause it seemed to sound better but the distortion?
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby ReSet » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:47 am

The distortion would be there to throw in some more frequencies to the bass, and would serve to 'blend' the two waves together, in a sense. It would just give it some kind of character, I guess :)
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Re: How to generate nauseating sub bass??

Postby alexc » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:50 am

Well cheers for that people. I guess I never really looked into my sub that much.
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