Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby ReSet » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:06 pm

Rmonik wrote:Well what's the problem with trying to appeal to the biggest part of humanity?


None at all! That isn't what my problem with this kind of music is!

If she would use her talent to make music with more depth, she wouldn't be nearly as popular, simple because pop is popular, hence the name. And somebody has to do it. I mean, if all talented people would make anything but pop, then pop wouldn't be popular anymore, since it would suck.


Why? Why can't musically engaging, thought provoking music be popular too? Why does innovative music have to be niche? Why does music have to be mind-numbing and pointless to make it to the mass market (LMFAO, I'm looking at you)?

I'm not saying all popular music sucks, heck, I'll even find myself humming Bublé if i'm in the right mood, because his arrangements, involving top class musicians in a tight band are kick-ass, and he has the voice to carry his charisma.

Jay-Z brought hip-hop to the masses, but again, his producer is solid, his rhymes are lyrical, and he talks about meaningful things, how hard it was growing up as a young black lad in the backstreets of Brooklyn, how he grew to love his city, etc etc. The point is, his music has heart.

On the other hand, we have names like Flo Rida, who's every song involves drinking in a club. Seriously, all he ever sings about is meetin dem honeys when he gets his drink on. And yes, while everyone likes to party, most people have other parts to their lives. Flo Rida appears not to.

And it's music like this that I don't understand how people buy into. How boring would society be, if all the music we listened to was about the club? Do people really want to be bombarded relentlessly with the message that drinking makes you popular?

I of course understand and appreciate that not all music can be as complex as a Beethoven symphony, and everyone needs something simple to bop along to, but when the charts are dominated by music that all sounds the same in terms of content, be it haters, drinking, clubbing, reviving retired rockstars careers because their name rhymes with certain term for charisma, I lose a little faith in humanity and the music industry.

Perhaps it's not the musicians themselves that I have a problem with most, as much as the people who continue to keep them at the top.
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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby Rmonik » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:26 pm

I understand your point, it's just that i don't really care what other people like. I don't believe in the statement that more "educated" musicians claim, which is that mainstream music affects other music in a bad way. That's what all the hate against pop is all about i think, but i don't believe that 's true, so i really don't care when a new pop artist comes about and is suddenly world famous without really being talented. It's not my problem.

There will always be people that are not interested in the big masses, and they will make music you like, because, you are never alone in your taste of music.
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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby izotonik » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:01 pm

some musicians are just talented performers. they put themselves in others peoples hands, more exactly the labels and the people that are assigned to work with them... and literally trust them their careers. for the good and for the bad..

imo, a PART of the mainstream music nowadays is ruled by people that have an inferiority complex, visible on the ostentatious display of brands, materialism and the need to show off.
some artists became powerful names in the industry. once, in the past, they had something (meaningful) to say in what concerns to music. nowadays, not so much.
basically it all resumes to status and power... n money. and that obliviously affects the music quality.
the quality of the music they make.. and the music that they help to promote.
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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby Skyhunter » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:08 am

Saying that Katy Perry has a knack for making popular music is giving her too much credit. Dr. Luke has a knack for making popular music.
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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby Tr!X » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:42 pm

Merlinn wrote:My reason for hating rock and metal is that it is all the same, for the most part. There are so many bands that all sound so similar.
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True that. Mainstream metal yes.But there are so many metal artists, that sound compleatly significant. That's why I listen to progressive :D It's pretty much never the same stuff. At this point I would REALLY like to promote my favourite metal band.

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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby TheCatWithTheAssHat. » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:34 am

if i may join this rant.
modern metal/hard rock is damn horrible (what they play on the radio). heard the five finger death punch song.
good god. thousands of people listening to it. its like chem trails of cock rock and really really lame power ballads.
it all sounds like daughtry or some mutant bastard offspring of alice in chains and/dio

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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby Nadjanima » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:29 am

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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby Pokey » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:03 pm

ReSet wrote: Katy Perry, the smug floozy who's more famous than she has any right to be, considering her complete inability to sing. The main reason she's successful is because she's every 15-27 year old male's poster girl.

My thoughts EXACTLY! This really pisses me off. Who thinks wearing a cupcake bra and squrting cream off your tits is a good idea? Plus the message from songs like Teenage Dream or anything from Kesha are so sexual.
ReSet wrote:Do people really want to be bombarded relentlessly with the message that drinking makes you popular?

The way that kind of music tell people how to be is so sad. Its not just music though, its most of the media. But that's a different story for a different time...
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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby izotonik » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:50 pm

ReSet wrote:Do people really want to be bombarded relentlessly with the message that drinking makes you popular?

basically, low quality mainstream is the exploration and "stupidification" of the masses. good quality mainstream is enlightening and constructive.
sometime ago, only those who were the best could reach mainstream level. now, everyone can do it..

it's a great responsibility being there and being able to do that. some people are not up to the task imo, but even so they become super overrated.. which is unbelievable. specially in electronic music.
well.. if people like them... they must be cool.
whatever. let them be there.

there's so many amazing music out there. people should not limit themselves to what is more easily accessible. fortunately, a lot of people don't.
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Re: Almost 90% of all mainstream music.

Postby LawrenceL342 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:14 pm

hello people, I read through this and all I can say is, you all have great points, lady gaga is a great singer but her clothes do make her look insane, death metal does all sound the same and Jay Z does rap from the heart.

but in my opinion, Ellie Goulding has to be my favourite mainstream artist.
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