pitching down [reason 5]

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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby xTherebythetrees » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:32 pm

You can't timestretch in Reason.
But you can take the vocal wav, put into audacity and do it there.
Then put the stretched vocals back into a nn19 or what ever you might use.

Some interesting stuff tho' is that you, in the nn19, can automate the "sample start" knob, which sortof works like a timestretch, but I, myself, havent been able to master that method completely.
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby Rmonik » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:50 pm

You're misunderstanding the word "stretching" here. When you speed up a sample, it's gonna sound higher in pitch, because the waves are closer to eachother, thus raising the frequency of the waves. When we say stretching, we mean speeding up/slow down a sample without affecting the pitch. Obviously, once you've done that, you can slow it down again to the same length and you'll have a different pitch. That's not a very practical way to work (except when you want to do basic intervals like octaves) but it's the same algorithm. We call it "transposing", or sometimes pitch shifting. I'm not sure how to do it in audacity (reason cannot do it, except if you have reason 6 or record).

PS: if you want to shift it an octave down, timestrech the sample to the half of its original length, and then lengthen them again to their full length without timestretching. But i'm sure audacity must have a pitch shifting engine too.
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby Dr. Krunklehorn » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:50 pm

Audacity has Change Pitch, Change Speed and Change Tempo.

The first two will change the speed and pitch at the same time, with the third one being the best solution to this problem.

Your gonna wanna pitch it to your liking, then use Change Tempo to get it back to the same duration.
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby MnilinM » Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:55 pm

Get either Record or Reason 6 so you can just use Neptune. =P
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby MnilinM » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:03 pm

Details details. =P
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby conner. » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:01 pm

Can't you do this with NN-XT in reason? Just lengthen the zone down an octave from the original and draw it in in the sequencer? That's what I did with one.
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby xTherebythetrees » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:31 pm

Yes you can, but it wont be the same, as the sample wont maintain it's original length, but it will be slowed down.
You could do it in a nn19, tho' just set the snap value to 1/64 and draw a whole lot of them, then automate the sample start knob to your liking.
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby Rmonik » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:23 pm

then it doubles in length.
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby Dr. Krunklehorn » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:06 pm

conner. wrote:Can't you do this with NN-XT in reason? Just lengthen the zone down an octave from the original and draw it in in the sequencer? That's what I did with one.


I'm pretty sure NN-XT doesn't use granular techniques to pitch up and down, so the length would be effected.
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Re: pitching down [reason 5]

Postby conner. » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:52 am

To audacity then. Or Neptune. xD
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